Have Lunch With Me!
A year or two ago I picked up a Mail & Guardian newspaper at my local Pick ‘n Pay to discover an insert titled “300 Young South Africans to take to Lunch”. The insert highlighted the achievements of a number of young South Africans in a range of categories including politics, sport, business, technology, etc. and invited readers to take them out to their favourite lunch spot.
I was jealous – I wanted to be a young South African to take to lunch. Not only because it was a great accolade, but also because I like free lunches.
This year I was very fortunate and honoured to be included in the very same insert in the technology category, among much respected colleagues like David and Marc Perel, Vincent Hofmann (who recently joined Cerebra), Matt Buckland, Adii, Heidi Schniegansz and more.
Undoubtedly the highlight of being included in the list was an invitation to a lunch, hosted by M&G, where Prince Mashele of the Institute for Security Studies delivered a brilliant speech that challenged me to my core, and I believe needs to be shared. He kindly offered to let me share it with you here:
Master of Ceremonies, Mr Songezo Zibi;
The Editor-in-chief of the Mail and Guardian, Mr Nic Dawes;
Representative of Xstrata South Africa, Mr Eric Ratshikhopa;
The 300 influential young South Africans;
Invited guests;
Ladies and gentlemen,I am humbled by the honour to address the cream of South African youth today.
To be selected by the Mail and Guardian amongst 300 Young South Africans people must take to lunch is a confirmation of the prestigious position you occupy individually in our society today.
As a collective, you are the best that our country has in 2009, and what we will have in the foreseeable future. You are to South Africa what an emerging sun represents at dawn.
I need not remind you that you are all youth leaders in different fields of our social, political and economic life. Those who are worried about South Africa’s future look at you for national inspiration and hope.
For that, you all deserve a round of applause!
While I am aware that you are here to celebrate your individual success stories, I would like to take advantage of your collective presence and pose a question I think future generations will ask later on in your lives: Where were you, and what did you do when South Africa began to degenerate?
I raise this worrying question because I agree with the assertion made by Roberto Mangabeira Unger in his book, Democracy Realised, when he says:
The perversion of economic growth and its fruits begins when we attempt to make up for the scarcity of public goods by producing more private ones, and to find in the private consumption a barren solace for social frustration. (1998:7)
Who amongst you would argue that we have not yet reached a perverse stage in the evolution of post-apartheid South Africa, where the public sector is the worst preferred, and the private sector the most preferred?
Should anyone doubt if this is true, imagine how an average young South African would reply to the following questions:
• If you had a choice, would you like your mother to be treated in a public or private hospital?
• If you had the means, would you take your children to a private or public school?
• If you had a private option, would you go to the Department of Home Affairs for services?
• If you lived in a townhouse, would you trust the police or ADT to secure your private property?
• If you had to negotiate an ethical business transaction, would you prefer to talk to a politician or a private entrepreneur?Those who would choose the private sphere as their answer to these critical questions must immediately be alerted that they are active participants in the construction of a private sub-state in South Africa!
A private sub-state is populated by people who choose to kill their conscience by conveniently turning a blind eye to the ills plaguing society. Yet the wealth and incomes generated by these private citizens owe a great deal to the sweat and toil of the suffering workers and the poor.
In his famous book, How Europe Underdeveloped Africa, Walter Rodney lamented this situation in post-colonial African states, focusing on the middle class. He said:
They squander the wealth created by the peasants and workers by purchasing cars, whisky, and perfume. (1972:19)
As the South African middle class, I am not sure if you do not, as Walter Rodney observed elsewhere in Africa, “squander the wealth created by the peasants and workers by purchasing cars, whisky, and perfume.”
But I am certain that, if the champions of the private sphere were to succeed, it would essentially mean the hastening of the very social perversion that Roberto Mangabera Unger wrote about.
The tragedy, however, is that at the peak of post-apartheid South Africa’s economic success in 2007, the Bureau of Market Research at the University of South Africa estimated the size of the black middle class – the so-called Black Diamonds – at 9.3 million.
We now know the economic difficulties the black middle class has fallen into, when the Reserve Bank raised interest rates sharply and the global economic crisis began to hit home.
Even if we were to combine the struggling Black Diamonds with the entire white population, we would still have to confront the painful reality that more than half of our country’s population live in poverty and cannot afford the services provided by the most preferred private sector.
It is these objective socio-economic conditions that divide our nation into ‘us’ versus ‘them’. Those who are cushioned by the comfort and opulence of the private sphere continue to withdraw further and further into their private cocoons, while the poor are left to their own devices.
But the two worlds do, in many ways, interface in a manner that reinforces and continues to widen the chasm between the haves and have-nots. Those who have the means feel threatened by those who do not. The propertied class fortify their private spaces to protect themselves against the property-less.
It is against this background that British cultural theorist Terry Eagleton wrote the following in his book entitled After Theory:
It is not hard to imagine affluent communities of the future protected by watchtowers, searchlights and machine guns, while the poor scavenge for food in the waste lands beyond. (2003:22)
When Eagleton made this profound observation in 2003, he probably thought he was a prophet whose words would come to pass like a religious prophesy that waits for centuries to pass before it is proven right.
Little did Terry Eagleton know that, three years down the road (in 2009), a fellow like me would address 300 Young South Africans, among whom there would be those who already live in communities protected by watchtowers, searchlights and machineguns while the poor scavenge for food in the waste lands beyond.
I say all this not because I am bent on spoiling your special day, but as a desperate attempt to point out your historic responsibility towards the broader society.
• If you are a famous young writer, and you do not write about the plight of the poor, history will ask: Where were you, and what did you do when South Africa began to degenerate?
• If you are a prolific young journalist, and you say nothing about corrupt politicians who embezzle public funds, posterity will ask: Where were you, and what did you do when South Africa began to degenerate?
• If you are a flourishing young entrepreneur, and you do not contribute to the improvement of the lives of the destitute, future generations will ask: Where were you, and what did you do when South Africa began to degenerate?
• If you are a singer, and you do not sing in defence of the downtrodden masses, history will also pose a question to you: Where were you, and what did you do when South Africa began to degenerate?
It does not matter what kind of work you do, there is a role you can and must play to stop the perversion of our society. Your success will mean nothing if it is not connected with the general advancement of society!
For those of you who are Black and whose success is connected to the struggles waged by the masses of our people, Frantz Fanon has an important message for you:
… we who are citizens of the under-developed countries, we aught to seek every occasion for contacts with the rural masses. … We aught never to lose contact with the people [who have] battled for [their] independence and for the concrete betterment of [their] existence. (The Wretched of the Earth, 1961:150-1)
If you do not take Fanon’s call seriously, the ‘us’ versus ‘them’ that already exists in our society will deepen its roots even further. You will fortify your private spaces without success. Criminals will not fail to reach wherever you live. ADT will not be enough to prevent the theft of your luxury sedan, the murder of your family members or the rape of your mothers, sisters and daughters.
We should indeed be wary of behaving as if the poor are powerless. When the gap between the poor, the middle class and the rich is allowed to widen its yawn, the poor always – and sometimes brutishly – have a way of outsmarting those who think they are educated and know it all.
Politically, the poor possess the disruptive capacity to disturb the untenable tranquillity of the educated elite. The destitute have it within their power to take over society in ways that leave the middle class kicking and screaming from the margins as if they are little children crying for help. As Roberto Mangabeira Unger reminds us once again:
The excluded … will not wait. They will strike back through politics, especially through the election of populist leaders, threatening to recommence the destructive pendular swing between economic populism and economic orthodoxy. (Ibid: 82)
Once this has happened, the educated class will be dismissed with derision, as if they have nothing to offer society. Society will be forced to celebrate mediocrity, and the slide into hopelessness can only be faster.
When mediocrity prevails, there will be circumstantial heroes whose heroism will be defended even if it means embarrassing society. Indeed, this hastens society’s collective descent into the abyss.
Once the poor have taken over, having been abandoned by the champions of the private sector, the public sector becomes a realm where corruption and inertia reign supreme! African and other countries that have gone down this road have, unfortunately, failed to make substantial reverse.
When the destitute strike back at the indifferent middle class and the rich, abnormality becomes normality; scorn is poured on sensibility; and rationality is subjected to demeaning ridicule.
When politics has reached this stage, the relationship between the authority of the office and the office bearer becomes tenuous. This is precisely what Herbert Marcuse refers to in his seminal book, A Study on Authority, when he says:
The dignity of the office and the worthiness of the officiating person no longer coincide in principle. The office retains its unconditional authority, even if the officiating person does not deserve this authority. (1972:16)
• Who amongst you does not know a youth leader whose authority does not coincide with that of his office?
• Who amongst you does not laugh or get embarrassed when some of our leaders speak on national TV?
• And who amongst you does not wish that some of our leaders were something close to Barack Obama?If you have experienced this personally, it means that you agree with Unger when he says: “The excluded … will not wait. They will strike back through politics, especially through the election of populist leaders.”
If you find this situation familiar, you should then ask yourself the following question: How do I respond to Frantz Fanon when he says: “… we who are citizens of the under-developed countries, we aught to seek every occasion for contacts with the rural masses”?
If you do not ask yourselves this soul-searching question, you might find yourself unable to respond when future generations ask: Where were you, and what did you do when South Africa began to degenerate?
I know that most of you are by now upset with me, that I have troubled your hearts and souls during an occasion where you were invited to celebrate your success stories.
I did this because I am convinced that the Mail and Guardian selected you to be among 300 influential, young South Africans because of the burden history has placed on your shoulders.
Like the Mail and Guardian, I see no person better than you to rescue our society from the yawning divide between the private and the public spheres of life.
I see no other group of young people better placed to lead me in all facets of South African life in ten, twenty years from now. And I also think you have an immediate responsibility to halt our country’s slide into hopelessness.
There is nothing magical you are expected to do that is beyond your already proven capabilities! All you need to do is to intensify the work that made it possible for you to be selected as part of 300 Young South Africans people must take to lunch.
But when you do it, keep in mind that future generations will one day ask: Where were you, and what did you do when South Africa began to degenerate?
Congratulations, and thank you very much!
What do you think? Where were you, and what did you do when South Africa began to degenerate?
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Great find Mike. I’m going to repost on SA Rocks if you don’t mind. With credit ofcourse!
by nic
on 24. Jun, 2009
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by The Speech – Where were you and what did you do? | South Africa Rocks
on 24. Jun, 2009
Wow, thanks for sharing, Mike. He delivers a powerful message that deserves to be published to a broader audience.
by JasonB
on 24. Jun, 2009
Brilliant speech, I have bookmarked it for future reminding of what South Africans should strive for.
by Jonathan Page
on 24. Jun, 2009
Excellent! Nothing like congratulating you and saying, “the job starts now”. I will distribute this to all, this is a message for all South Africans, rich and poor, successful and potentially successfull… Thanks for distributing it.
by Jim Bob
on 24. Jun, 2009
[...] So I implore you to go to Mike’s blog and read the complete speech [...]
by NicP » Blog Archive » If you care about SA, read this
on 24. Jun, 2009
What I found most fascinating was the crowds reaction to the speech. You could tell that some would have been far happier to bask in the glow of their own brilliance than actually have to utilise it to do good.
I haven’t been able to forget the following phrase, “But when you do it, keep in mind that future generations will one day ask: Where were you, and what did you do when South Africa began to degenerate?” and have repeated it a few times already as I think it sums up exactly how I feel. It’s a call to action and a question to our current leaders, influencers and money makers concurrently.
One last thing though, I haven’t been bought lunch yet, I think there might be something wrong with my fame as it’s not all that useful
by vincent
on 24. Jun, 2009
Great post Mike, thanks for putting that up – going to try get as many of my friends to read that as possible cause its important if people aren’t thinking this way yet.
“Where were you and what did you do?” – great question!
Also going to repost it and credit you and this blog of course.
by DanBaileyUK
on 24. Jun, 2009
Mike your a douche what have you done?
by jim
on 24. Jun, 2009
for someone who started a blog and then became a self proclaimed web 2.0 bubble enthusiast, you have a high opinion of yourself.
I mean seriously what do you do?
subscribe to RSS, feeds and sign on to facebook and then sell “the social networking idea” to businesses. how many other people do this on a daily basis but decided not to make a career out of it.
And organizing dinners with other fanboys
What happens now down the line when the social networking idea/buzz word gets old.
Werent there always communities on the net? or are forums and usegroups not ajaxed enough.
So what makes you the pro? is it because you get paid to regurgitate what America said yesterday?
by jim
on 24. Jun, 2009
Hey Jim. Thanks for the feedback. You have some really valid points, I don’t always get it right but have done my best to try and find value in the much-hyped Web 2.0 world and then help businesses benefit from it. I’ve created jobs for just short of 20 people in the process and hopefully helped others advance their careers too. So no, it might not be the most sustainable thing on the planet, I’m not saving Iran nor curing cancer, but we have fun and I enjoy what I do. More than that I can’t really ask for.
What do you do, just out of interest? Apart from commenting anonymously on people’s blogs?
by Mike
on 24. Jun, 2009
Jim – you seem a bit agitated.
by Minnaar
on 24. Jun, 2009
lol @ douche
by Giovanni
on 24. Jun, 2009
@jim needs to get a life. Seriously.
Too much of a sissie to use your real name there jimbo?
by Shawn
on 24. Jun, 2009
Shot for the free PR Jim
by Mike
on 24. Jun, 2009
Just a lowly computer guy surfing the web
by jim
on 24. Jun, 2009
As far as I can see, Jim you are the “douche” here.
Social networking will only end when the human race does.
Be real and show who you are to stand behind your comments.
by ImSmith
on 24. Jun, 2009
Its people like Jim that make me happy to be in the social media space. The longer they stay away the more time I have to make money from something I enjoy.
Keep it up Jim! I think we will have the last laugh when you finally open your eyes
by David Perel
on 24. Jun, 2009
Well said David.
RT@obox
by Minnaar Pieters
on 24. Jun, 2009
Jim, quit being a fucking ogre and get back to your day-job, those McDonald burgers aren’t gonna flip themselves.
by SlickTiger
on 24. Jun, 2009
[...] Mike Stopforth posted this story on his blog about how a couple of years back first saw the list in the Mail & Guardian and how he wanted to be on this list and now he is (reason being cause he likes free lunches!), now I seem to be in his shoes 3 years ago seeing the list and been jealous – I want to make this but more importantly I want to make a difference. [...]
by Speech for Mail & Guardian “300 Young South Africans to Take To Lunch” | DanBaileyUK
on 24. Jun, 2009
Nice one on killing the comment. Pussy.
by Richard
on 24. Jun, 2009
Hi all. Please note I did not delete any comment. I never do. I have no idea why Jim’s comments aren’t still on the site.
by Mike
on 24. Jun, 2009
@Richard – I managed to re-approve all of Jim’s comments, not sure where they went. Thanks for the heads up.
Pussy.
by Mike
on 24. Jun, 2009
Thanks for sharing Prince’s speech Mike. Sentiments like that need to gain more currency, particulalry amongst the “yoof”.
Unfortunately anonymous posters like “jim” don’t help things along with their transparent derailment attempts.
by Justin
on 24. Jun, 2009
Thanks for sharing Prince’s speech Mike. Sentiments like that need to gain more currency, particularly amongst the “yoof”.
Unfortunately anonymous posters like “jim” don’t help things along with their transparent derailment attempts.
by Justin
on 24. Jun, 2009
Jimbo! How goes?
a. you can’t spell
b. Mike has greased the corporate wheels for all (including you I’d guess) evangelising, creating opportunity, inspiring, and entertaining (there’s more, but I’m in support of Mike, not a sycophant.)
c. with regard to social networking becoming stale, even America’s leading agencies and ‘experts’ acknowledge and are adapting to the fastpaced nature of our environment, welcome “enterprise 2.0″. IMO what will happen is that Cerebra along with the rest will grow organically responding to the change, or as the tall-chimney that they are, may even follow the trend and be bought by a larger company.
d. finally, everyone has a role and their space in this world, who are you to judge?
by Gaby Rosario
on 25. Jun, 2009
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by Twitted by mattduplessis
on 03. Jul, 2009
good on you jim,
notice how all mike’s support comes from fellow blog mutts making a living just like him!
I think this is a bit of a claustrophobic space that fails to engage the majority of people and then suggests it can call itself a “trend”. sure, but a trend for the affluent that thinks little of those without internet connectivity – except that it’s an untapped market…
move in the cellphone giants, rather than food and education…
it’s a fucked up world.
but i do like mike tho so i suppose i’m biased.
I think in this fucked up world, where there’s a market – a person willing to spend – there’s a job and a respectable living. so the jury’s still out for me on whether he’s a pussy or not.
damn jealous about him making the M&G 300 before me!!!
(there’s not a freekin “spirituality” or “faith” section! – which there should be!!!)
by barry
on 15. Jul, 2009
oh, btw – jim. what is your favourite lunch spot?
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by barry
on 15. Jul, 2009
on a different note:
why is prince mashele’s speech so popular?
are we a hopeless generation in need of a shot of heroine into our veins to get us awake and alive to the present.
what a load of bull. “where were you when SA began to degenerate?” if the top 300 young people are so talented and gifted as their bio’s suggest (and as significant as Prince makes them out in his speech) then the future generations will be asking: “where were you when SA began to REGENERATE?” – and what was your part in it.
we’re so full of the negative that we need some shallow motivational talk to get us believing. my guess is that the effect of the motivation will last until the email has moved into “yesterday” section of our inbox. it’s effects will determine it’s depth. (or it’s shallowness will determine it’s longevity).
i think the speeches popularity is derived from the deep sense of hopelessness many affluent business-minded south africans are experiencing. they actually DO think we’re living during the beginning of the (zimbabwe-esque) end…
more important for me (and us i think). what will get SA moving? what will make a generation of young people believe in today and tomorrow? what (and where) do we turn to, to find the kind of deep motivation and hope that will enable more than just 300 young south africans to lift their head up and make a living? what will arrest the growing divinde between rich and poor, opportuned and illiterate? who wants to do business in a way that doesn’t just establish a strong brand or expand a market?
and are any questions being asked about the effects of these changes in human social behaviour? do we think, act and do business with a thoguht for the effects or do we just do business? where are the ethical questions being reflected on?
it’s NOT going to be a popular blog!
by barry
on 15. Jul, 2009
@Gaby
a. yes, i know i cna’t spell
b. thanks for bringnig this to our attention
c. are you always so stcuk up?
by jims bodyguard
on 15. Jul, 2009
For you mike : http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/d08b02ae4b/we-are-douchebags?rel=player
by jim
on 30. Oct, 2009
thanks for the post! lots of interesting comments as well. guys take it easy!
by Elemental
on 09. Dec, 2009
Thanks for the posting of this speech. Call it degenerating or regenerating…the point is that people need to get involved. Africa, South Africa, specially is a gem despite its myriad of problems.
I post the following article on here for more food for thought on this:
http://africa-heritage.com/blog/2010/01/18/africa-2010-bridging-the-knowledge-divide-%E2%80%93-haiti-%E2%80%93-part-18-of-30/
by A.Q.S.
on 27. Jan, 2010