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	<title>Comments on: How I know Netvibes is Winning</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.mikestopforth.com/2006/08/23/how-i-know-netvibes-is-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-554</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 10:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian - firstly, it&#039;s spam because more than one stranger to Tegan got the same email.  That&#039;s spam, even if it was unintentional.  

Secondly, as you will see in follow-up posts, Tegan apologised for the mail stating it was her fist job in &#039;internet marketing&#039; - sounds like spam to me.  

My fault for not showing Tegan&#039;s apology in my update - smack smack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastian &#8211; firstly, it&#8217;s spam because more than one stranger to Tegan got the same email.  That&#8217;s spam, even if it was unintentional.  </p>
<p>Secondly, as you will see in follow-up posts, Tegan apologised for the mail stating it was her fist job in &#8216;internet marketing&#8217; &#8211; sounds like spam to me.  </p>
<p>My fault for not showing Tegan&#8217;s apology in my update &#8211; smack smack.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.mikestopforth.com/2006/08/23/how-i-know-netvibes-is-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 10:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an e-mail, it&#039;s not spam. Do you sign-in to e-mails from friends, too?

As long as this isn&#039;t a newsletter, this is really no spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an e-mail, it&#8217;s not spam. Do you sign-in to e-mails from friends, too?</p>
<p>As long as this isn&#8217;t a newsletter, this is really no spam.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaheer</title>
		<link>http://www.mikestopforth.com/2006/08/23/how-i-know-netvibes-is-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaheer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Raasiel, I don&#039;t want to go too off-topic, but I checked both Writely and Zoho&#039;s suite. Zoho has the appearance, but Writely has the functionality. Plus, Zoho has some bugs that need to be squshed out. And Writely displays uploaded documents a tad bit better (no extra gaps/line spacings etc...)

Start pages: well - I have to agree - Netvibes lacks a good interface, and is a little slower in showing up the main page (unlike Pageflakes which loads up quicker - I&#039;m on dialup, that&#039;s how I know) but Netvibes has more modules/tabs etc etc. I shifted from Google&#039;s because Netvibes has an RSS reader (or pop-up baloons atleast) and a podcast player (not that I ever use it - not sure about Pageflakes).

In short - we&#039;ll never find what we&#039;re looking for... atleast I won&#039;t :) Guess we&#039;ll have to live with compromises (hey - isn&#039;t that the definition of &quot;life&quot;?)

Protopage? They lack modules and stuff, but the best thing is that it&#039;s drag and drop, and very, very, very simple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Raasiel, I don&#8217;t want to go too off-topic, but I checked both Writely and Zoho&#8217;s suite. Zoho has the appearance, but Writely has the functionality. Plus, Zoho has some bugs that need to be squshed out. And Writely displays uploaded documents a tad bit better (no extra gaps/line spacings etc&#8230;)</p>
<p>Start pages: well &#8211; I have to agree &#8211; Netvibes lacks a good interface, and is a little slower in showing up the main page (unlike Pageflakes which loads up quicker &#8211; I&#8217;m on dialup, that&#8217;s how I know) but Netvibes has more modules/tabs etc etc. I shifted from Google&#8217;s because Netvibes has an RSS reader (or pop-up baloons atleast) and a podcast player (not that I ever use it &#8211; not sure about Pageflakes).</p>
<p>In short &#8211; we&#8217;ll never find what we&#8217;re looking for&#8230; atleast I won&#8217;t <img src='http://www.mikestopforth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Guess we&#8217;ll have to live with compromises (hey &#8211; isn&#8217;t that the definition of &#8220;life&#8221;?)</p>
<p>Protopage? They lack modules and stuff, but the best thing is that it&#8217;s drag and drop, and very, very, very simple!</p>
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		<title>By: raasiel</title>
		<link>http://www.mikestopforth.com/2006/08/23/how-i-know-netvibes-is-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>raasiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 09:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what I mean to say is ... if these companies compete to provide better services its always better for me. Google, netvibes, pageflake, yahoo, these companies are recognising the need for this type of sites and who knows ... what we will see in future ... I was recentlyu amazed to see Zohoo Writer ... it was an awesome tool for the web. I hope in future we get to see even the competitors provide services that are interacting with each other. Think of hotmail ... or even more recntly the Gmail revolution that forced all the webmail providers to scale up ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what I mean to say is &#8230; if these companies compete to provide better services its always better for me. Google, netvibes, pageflake, yahoo, these companies are recognising the need for this type of sites and who knows &#8230; what we will see in future &#8230; I was recentlyu amazed to see Zohoo Writer &#8230; it was an awesome tool for the web. I hope in future we get to see even the competitors provide services that are interacting with each other. Think of hotmail &#8230; or even more recntly the Gmail revolution that forced all the webmail providers to scale up &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: raasiel</title>
		<link>http://www.mikestopforth.com/2006/08/23/how-i-know-netvibes-is-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>raasiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 09:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but we pf fans see it the other way ... everytime I post a blog on pageflakes I see a netvibes comment ... I see that to be quite unethical practice too.

But hey ... its good to have them both in market trying to serve us customers ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but we pf fans see it the other way &#8230; everytime I post a blog on pageflakes I see a netvibes comment &#8230; I see that to be quite unethical practice too.</p>
<p>But hey &#8230; its good to have them both in market trying to serve us customers &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hector</title>
		<link>http://www.mikestopforth.com/2006/08/23/how-i-know-netvibes-is-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>hector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is not the first time that pageflakes does this. Everytime a post appear on the web with their competitor, they add a spam post (always the same). This is a very non ethical approach for a company that pretend to be web 2.0.

the fact is that they are very few blogs talking about pageflakes and the only way to stay visible is to add theses messages every where.  I do agree, work on best features (not half finished features) and people will talk about you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is not the first time that pageflakes does this. Everytime a post appear on the web with their competitor, they add a spam post (always the same). This is a very non ethical approach for a company that pretend to be web 2.0.</p>
<p>the fact is that they are very few blogs talking about pageflakes and the only way to stay visible is to add theses messages every where.  I do agree, work on best features (not half finished features) and people will talk about you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Stopforth &#187; An Apology from Tegan</title>
		<link>http://www.mikestopforth.com/2006/08/23/how-i-know-netvibes-is-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Stopforth &#187; An Apology from Tegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On Wednesday I wrote about an email I had received from a Pagleflakes employee (Tegan) that had felt a bit like spam. I wasn&#8217;t particulary pissed off about it, rather pointing to different marketing approaches and the fine line between proactivity and spam in the world of Web 2.0 uber-competitiveness. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On Wednesday I wrote about an email I had received from a Pagleflakes employee (Tegan) that had felt a bit like spam. I wasn&#8217;t particulary pissed off about it, rather pointing to different marketing approaches and the fine line between proactivity and spam in the world of Web 2.0 uber-competitiveness. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.mikestopforth.com/2006/08/23/how-i-know-netvibes-is-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your insightful contribution Joshd.

Firstly, if you read &lt;a href=&quot;http://gorillasushi.com/?q=node/18#comment-9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; you&#039;ll see that I was not the only person to receive the mail.  Others got identical copies.

Secondly, by definition required information is required. This is not rocket science Josh.  I had my suspicions that you might be a PageFlakes employee but with a comment like that, I&#039;m pretty satisfied you aren&#039;t.

Next time, when it says &#039;required&#039;, type, and I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll be amazed at the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your insightful contribution Joshd.</p>
<p>Firstly, if you read <a href="http://gorillasushi.com/?q=node/18#comment-9" rel="nofollow">this</a> you&#8217;ll see that I was not the only person to receive the mail.  Others got identical copies.</p>
<p>Secondly, by definition required information is required. This is not rocket science Josh.  I had my suspicions that you might be a PageFlakes employee but with a comment like that, I&#8217;m pretty satisfied you aren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Next time, when it says &#8216;required&#8217;, type, and I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll be amazed at the results.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definaition of spam: Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail.

This wasn&#039;t commercial, indiscripinate or or sent to multiple people. Sending an email is the way that another company should ask this kind of question isn&#039;t it?

By the way, this comment form is busted big time. If required information is missing it ditches the message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definaition of spam: Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail.</p>
<p>This wasn&#8217;t commercial, indiscripinate or or sent to multiple people. Sending an email is the way that another company should ask this kind of question isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>By the way, this comment form is busted big time. If required information is missing it ditches the message.</p>
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		<title>By: atw</title>
		<link>http://www.mikestopforth.com/2006/08/23/how-i-know-netvibes-is-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>atw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 06:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on the netvibes. I think it is the next big thing. the next big web verb, after googling? &quot;netvibing&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on the netvibes. I think it is the next big thing. the next big web verb, after googling? &#8220;netvibing&#8221;?</p>
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